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Ok, so just gotta ask, since the word has been bandied around here so much - when did "emo" take on its current connotation of modish, whiny boys? See, thing is, the first time I remember people using the term (for lack of a better) would have been about '94/'95, I think, when there were an awful lot of really good indie bands with a sorta hardcore sound but interspersed with melodic beauty, and lyrics that were smart, political, and personal. My god, young men talking about their feelings! A revolution! And it certainly wasn't whiny (not all of it anyways).

Hhm. Men talking about their feelings - let's call it "emotional" core. Well, of course that couldn't last but would have to become something to be mocked by the larger public. That's the only way I can understand the evolution of the slang - if boys try and talk about their feelings we will laugh at it. Way to go, Johnny Q Public.

Posted on 01/15/2007
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kat3260 says:

I think many people toss around the term "emo" (and terms like "punk", "hippie", etc.) without one clue what it really means. Also, I'm just really sick of hearing about how "emo" everything is...makes no sense.

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I'm with you - which is why the "emo" tag doesn't bother me at all. The emo I remember is like Promise Ring, Texas is the Reason, Sunny Day Real Estate. The new stuff is like emo-lite. ;)

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kristiana says:

Haha, exactly, guys!

Amber Inn, another good one. Samuel.

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feelings I DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD ANY FEELINGS lol

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Lyla says:

emo now means the "i wear eyeliner and i am so depressed and my music is really derivative and stupid but feel sorry before me because blah blah blah". at least for me, there's a huge difference between artists being up-front and honest about their feelings/whatever, and those kids. give me emotionally-stunning music any day - elliott smith, bright eyes, kind of like spitting, etc. - but god save us all from the likes of hawthorne heights or whatever.

when i say something is emo, i never mean it in a good way.

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levek says:

What's the difference between "emo", "shoegazer", "slow core"," lo-fi"? and who catalogs the bands/performers? My classification is "good music", "so-so", and "bad music".

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kristiana says:

Touche! lol

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Rawkkiddo says:

Emo sheemo. I am with Sam in wanting to remember the bands that I was first told were "emo". I don't think it matters, but with any music it gets tagged. If I like an "emo" band well then I like an emo band. I dont wear eyeliner, and I dont whine too much. I think it would be a better idea to label the listener rather than the music.

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disco says:

I think it was a case of a normal term turning derogatory. So blame the assholes who made it derogatory.

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Wozniak says:

I never saw the political in emo. I did see guys singing about trees, though. Maybe I was listening to the wrong bands.

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kristiana says:

Yes, that is the main point of my post - the fact that the term was turned into something derogatory is interesting. I wonder at what point it happened...?

Shawn, guess what I bought today? "Vegan Planet". Just, ya know, to try some recipes, looks good.

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Emo is a slang term used to describe a range of fashion styles and attitudes somewhat affiliated with emo music and its related scene. As an adjective, emo can describe a style of fashion or music; or a general state of unhappiness or melancholy (as in to "feel emo"). Emo is also used as a noun, often pejoratively, to identify a member of the "emo scene" or someone viewed as fitting the "emo" stereotype easily being characterized by a straightened side-part hairstyle covering one eye.

History

Origins Main article: Emo (music) For more than a decade, the term emo was used almost exclusively to describe the genre of music that spawned from the 1980s DC scene and the bands inspired by it; however, during the late 1990s, as emo music began to emerge into popular consciousness, the term began to be used as a broader reference than its prior music denotation. The origin of the word emo itself is unclear. In a 1985 interview by Rites of Spring in Flipside, members of the band noted that some of their fans in DC were starting to call them "emo," arguably because of the state of emotion that the band displayed during their shows. In later years, the word emo was viewed as a contraction of "emotional hardcore" or "emocore," which was the popular designation of the music genre. A younger contingent argues that emo is a contraction for "emotive hardcore;" however, no primary source demonstrates the use of that term prior to the mid-1990s. Meanwhile, numerous sources cite the use of "emotional hardcore," dating back to the mid-to-late 1980s. In recent years, as its use has come to define more than just the music, the word emo has often been viewed as short for "emotional." 2000s Bands like Dashboard Confessional began to popularize a more dramatic and personal style of "emo," which used lyrics that had a far greater appeal amongst teenagers experiencing life and love for the first time. As the lyrical content shifted and the genre began to enter the mainstream, the term "emo" started to be used more often to describe what was perceived by those outside the scene as the overwrought melodrama of the music. The perception was that melodrama was feigned; an effort to display depression or dysfunction where it did not actually exist. Popular comments such as "don't be so emo" and "cheer up, emo kid" expressed the belief among detractors that fans of emo music took themselves too seriously.

As major labels began categorising more diverse bands under the "emo" label, varying styles of music and dress began to be conflated as well. The style of bands like My Chemical Romance and Panic! at the Disco, for example, began to be associated with emo despite the fact the bands specifically denounce the term emo to describe their music. Fashion and culture Caricature of stereotypical emo dress. Typical male "emo hair." Long bangs brushed over one eye with short hair in the back.There are two popular forms of dress that are considered emo. The first is essentially derived from the 1990s "indie emo" scene and has connections to indie rock, and punk rock. It includes more vintage and thrift store clothing, typically for a well-worn look. Some of the clothing leans toward khaki colors. T-shirts are typically of smaller sizes and with various prints-- often with images from the punk culture. The favored backpacks, messenger bags, often have pins and patches of various bands. In general, a lot of the clothing features various bands and artists. The other popular style of dress focuses on darker colors, and is more influenced by Goth fashion. Common to the emo stereotype is straight, dark colored hair (either black, red, or multi-colored ) which covers one eye (or the entire face). Males are pictured wearing pants tailored for females with a punk-rock style studded belt. Lip, eyebrow, and labret piercings are common throughout the style. Dark make-up (most notably black eyeliner, although red and pink eyeshadow is becoming increasingly popular) is present on both girls and boys. A common accessory for both males and females is glasses with a dark coloured (usually black), thick rim-- a style even sometimes worn by people not requiring corrective eye-wear. Wristbands, usually black, but in other various colors are also popular as well as other items adorning the wrist, such as studded bracelets. Another increasingly popular accessory is sweatbands or arm socks, often sporting band logos. Converse All-Star shoes are common amongst both styles of dress, as are Vans and other skate shoe brands. While "emo" is often used to describe the dress and attitudes of fans of emo music, "emo" as a musical genre and "emo" as a slang term are largely separate; "emo" as a musical genre long pre-dated the use of "emo" as a slang term. At the same time, most current bands are labeled "emo" unwillingly, largely because they share some of the fashion trends and attitudes associated with "emo" as a slang term. There is also a common stereotype that associates "emo" with self-harm, most notably cutting wrists, partly due to song lyrics associated with "emo" bands, which often speak of acts of self-destruction; however, apart from the anecdotal, there may not be a significant correlation between emo subculture and self-harm. Alternative uses The term "emo" has also been used in recent years on the Internet as a form of insult, especially toward those who appear emotionally unstable, or those who talk about issues in their personal lives to people in public forums or chat rooms. Similar to popular profanity, it tends to be used as a general insult even when it is not directly applicable. Phrases such as "cheer up, emo kid" are used frequently as a quick brush-off in this context. Some people use the term "emo" to describe a feeling of depression, alluding to the association of depression with the "emo" subculture. As a result, individual definitions of emo vary greatly, and consensus on a single definition is difficult if not impossible.

Uh? Fuck That! I find this of most intrest...

Bukkake From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search For the Japanese noodle preparation method, see soba. Bukkake listen (help·info) is a group sex practice wherein a series of men take turns ejaculating onto a woman, who is sitting, lying down, or kneeling. The semen is left on the face as another man repeats the routine. A new variant is lesbian bukkake, practiced by women. History Theories as to the historical origins of bukkake vary, but most agree that bukkake was popularized in Japan by Japanese adult video companies in the first half of the 1970s. It is to be assumed that a significant factor in the development of bukkake was the mandatory censorship of genitalia (porn mosaic) in Japan. Since the directors could not show penetration they sought new, visually-appealing ways to approach sex acts that would satisfy the audience without violating Japanese law. Semen was not required to be censored, thus creating a loophole for harder sex scenes. The term “Bukkake” was popularized in the United States by talk show host Howard Stern on his nationally syndicated radio program. Controversy arose regarding the meaning of the word when station managers began censoring its use, inadvertently creating more interest. Some pornographers explore this fetish in their videos. The most popular titles made in the occident are Baker's Dozen by Brandon Iron, American Bukkake by JM Productions, and German Goo Girls by German producer John Thompson. Legality In March 2005 the owner of an adult bookstore chain was indicted by the federal government for, among other things, distribution of obscenity. Among the six named movies were American Bukkake 7 and 8.

On 31 May 2006, owners and distributors of the American company JM Productions were indicted for distribution of obscenity; one of the four named movies was American Bukkake 13 which the U.S. Department of Justice apparently considers to be obscene. Sociology Some have described bukkake as a fetish culture beyond sex. Since the primary fetish focuses on a passive female humiliated by men, it has been called an expression of male insecurity and fear of loss of control. Etymology Bukkake is the noun form of the Japanese verb bukkakeru (打っ掛ける, to dash [water]), and means simply "splash" or "dash." The compound verb can be decomposed into two verbs: butsu (ぶつ) and kakeru (掛ける). Butsu literally means to hit, but in this usage it appears to be an intensive prefix as in buttamageru (ぶったまげる, "completely astonished") or butchigiri (ぶっちぎり, "overwhelming win"). Kakeru in this context means to shower or pour. The word bukkake is often used in Japanese to describe pouring out water (or other liquids) with sufficient momentum to cause splashing or spilling.[6] Indeed, bukkake is used in Japan to describe a type of dish where the toppings are poured on top of noodles, as in bukkake-udon and bukkake-soba.

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kristiana says:

Yes, ahem, I have seen clips of "bukkake". Didn't turn my crank, in fact a wee bit disturbing. Takes all kinds! Literally.

Yeah, still doesn't pinpoint for me when the terminology changed though. I can't help but think that some big bad marketing jock pointed kids in the "right" direction - "hey, hey look guys, an "emo" dude, what a sissy." Kinda like those McDonald's ads Spence brought attention to one day, ya know? I can see it.

Ok, it's too late for my tired brain. Bye bye.

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Wozniak says:

I may have to visit Canada.

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1234chainsaw says:

Ahem, about the only good thing about RGM's lengthy cut-and-paste was the mention of Rites Of Spring. Emo or not, they still best anything else loosely associated with the genre, including the mighty Sunny Day Real Estate. Otherwise it was totally useless boilerplate. We weren't even given even the bloody source of the emo part so that those who are interested could go and check it out. Maybe just give a thumbnail sketch and provide a link next time. Please?

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Universalis says:

There are much more EMO's i'd figure it would, Doctor Ray teaches lengthy lessons, but it is worth reading it all and keep what takes on you, leave the rest where you've found it, there will always be someone finding something useful to themselves in it, keep it up RGM, it rocks 8-)

BTW kristiana, don't worry, as you can see many of us are a bit crazy, but usually we don't bite 8-))))

CU soon

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B42 says:

Sensitive New Age Guys Words and Music by Christine Lavin and John Gorka Copyright 1990 CL2 (ASCAP) & Blues Palace Music (ASCAP)

Who like to talk about their feelings? (Sensitive new age guys.) Who's into crystals, into healing? (Sensitive new age guys.) Who like to dress like Richard Simmons? (Sensitive new age guys.) Who are hard to tell from women? (Sensitive new age guys.) Who like to cry at weddings? Who think boxing is upsetting? Who tapes "Thirty Something" on their VCR, Who's got "Baby on Board" stickers on their cars, oh, (Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh)

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Who likes music that repetitious? (Sensitive new age guys.) Who likes music that's repetitious? (Sensitive new age guys.) Who's concerned about your orgasm? (silence) Well, I guess it's more important that they have 'em. (Sensitive new age guys.) Who carries the baby on his back? Who thinks Shirley MacLaine is on the inside track? Who always sings on sing-alongs, Even when they can't stand stupid sing-along songs?

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